tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6857047304739835863.post5881124553883976427..comments2023-03-03T05:56:32.250-08:00Comments on Armed Self Defense: Here's What Will Happen To George Zimmerman Next In Floridajghhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02887891532677660002noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6857047304739835863.post-18655907025531595142013-07-13T12:41:16.288-07:002013-07-13T12:41:16.288-07:00Uhhhhh, Uh oh! Trayvon already got justice---from ...Uhhhhh, Uh oh! Trayvon already got justice---from Zimmerman's gun. No "tragedy" here. Trayvon was a drug-dealing, thieving, violent punk, who picked the wrong Mexican to try to kill. The Lord, in all his goodness, mercy and justice, delivered us George Zimmerman, a brave warrior who exterminated Trayvon for his evil, crime and hatred. Well done, Zimmerman! The Lord is with you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6857047304739835863.post-29417715943934992452012-04-20T08:23:05.482-07:002012-04-20T08:23:05.482-07:00And, the Judge just granted Zimmerman $150,000 bon...And, the Judge just granted Zimmerman $150,000 bond. How do you explain that one since, Every other ordinary Murder II defendant is held over for trial?"jghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02887891532677660002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6857047304739835863.post-39616623619716473942012-04-20T07:00:06.614-07:002012-04-20T07:00:06.614-07:00Thank you for your scholarly "lesson" an...Thank you for your scholarly "lesson" and legal "analysis."<br /><br />But, its only worthy of a D+ because of your personal opinion you injected and inaccuracies you state as fact. <br /><br />Here are some things that show you have no clue. <br /><br />"the prosecutor firmly believes the evidence will show that he intended to cause Trayvon's death, without justification (under relevant Florida law). That means the prosecutor does not believe any self defense or stand your ground claim is remotely colorable."<br /><br />Have you read the relevant Florida Law, 776.041- Use of force by aggressor?<br />Probably not. <br /><br />Your statement about what the prosecutor believes is not necessarily dispositive. We have an adversarial legal system which also means he is presumed innocent unless and until found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, a very high burden of proof. <br /><br />This prosecutor has an 85% conviction rate. That also means she has a 15% acquittal rate too. That's a fairly typical prosecutor success rate. <br /><br />The evidence that a prosecutor presents to the judge initially simply just has to give rise to probable cause to get the case moving toward trial. <br /><br />"Every other ordinary Murder II defendant is held over for trial." <br /><br />Held over? Do you mean legally obligated to go to trial or held in jail, which is what I assume you meant. <br /><br />Where's your basis in actual fact for that statement? There is none. ts just your opinion and baseless assertion<br /><br />The Judge will look at certain statutory bond consideration factors. Keep in mind that all these factors are arguable by a good lawyer. <br />When the Judge determines bond, if there is one, at the hearing, He will look at some of these factors. <br /><br />Some primary ones that are arguable by both sides are: <br /><br />1. Close community ties<br />2. Prior convictions<br />3. Present danger to the community<br />4. Substance dependency...<br />5. Flight risk... The one you put the most stock in...<br />You said, "Too big a flight risk, when he knows the possible outcome includes life in prison, without possibilty of parole." <br /><br />How do you account for his turning himself in? He had previously consulted attorneys and knew the possible penalties when he turned himself in. <br /><br />Here, he did not leave the state, and turned himself in a literal football distance from the Georgia state line. He stayed to face and contest the charges. The judge could be convinced by this or any other factor or combination of factors to grant bond, or not. <br /><br />In a regular 2nd degree case that is not "High profile" like this one, a defendant with factors that indicate a granting of bond would have about an 80% chance of bond. <br /><br />No matter how much you don't like it, Zimmerman has about a 60% chance of bond.jghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02887891532677660002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6857047304739835863.post-56356347636560741242012-04-11T15:59:09.208-07:002012-04-11T15:59:09.208-07:00No bond. No bail. The only thing making this not f...No bond. No bail. The only thing making this not first degree murder, in the eyes of the special prosecutor, at least, is pre-meditation.<br /><br />Mr. Zimmerman simply didn't premeditate the act of killing Trayvon Martin -- other than that, the prosecutor firmly believes the evidence will show that he intended to cause Trayvon's death, without justification (under relevant Florida law). That means the prosecutor does not believe any self defense or stand your ground claim is remotely colorable.<br /><br />Otherwise, the charge would have been manslaughter.<br /><br />Mr. Zimmerman should be prepared to stay in custody until trial. Every other ordinary Murder II defendant is held over for trial.<br /><br />Too big a flight risk, when he knows the possible outcome includes life in prison, without possibilty of parole. That's called "natural life" -- and he is eligible to be so convicted.<br /><br />Here endeth the lesson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6857047304739835863.post-82230451670698097582012-04-11T15:03:32.117-07:002012-04-11T15:03:32.117-07:00"But, the practical result is that Zimmerman ..."But, the practical result is that Zimmerman has replaced Casey Anthony as the most hated person in America." <br /><br />I don't agree...I think there is a significant number of people who agree that, based on the evidence so far presented in the media (risky, I know), Zimmerman was defending himself.<br /><br />The rest of your post, though, is EXTREMELY informative. Thanks for posting this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com